Don’t Pray For Peter

Here’s an interesting exchange between Peter (aka Theomorph) and a commenter about the efficacy of intercessory prayer.

“I still think that so long as anyone believes in the same God who made an appearance in the book of Job, the idea of prayer getting a person what he or she wants is theologically unsound. If I may paraphrase in the vernacular, God basically told Job, ‘Don’t f*** with me; I do what I want and you can’t stop me.'”

Comments 3

  1. gbm3 wrote:

    What about?:

    http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/jonah/jonah3.htm

    “When God saw by their actions how they turned from their evil way, he repented of the evil that he had threatened to do to them; he did not carry it out.” Jonah 3:10

    There are other examples of this also.

    The book of Job illustrates part of the whole picture of God.

    Posted 12 Apr 2006 at 10:59 am
  2. Funky Dung wrote:

    Welcome back, GBM. Long time, no comment. :)

    Posted 12 Apr 2006 at 11:03 am
  3. Peter wrote:

    Funny that a God who is supposed to know everything and transcend human silliness would be so careless as to affect mood swings and then leave it to the humans in each situation to be taking notes, then to compare notes, then to figure out a way to rationalize why God is unrepentant over here, but repentant over there, and still somehow greater than all the pathetic pagan gods.

    But, you know, it makes a lot more sense to say that there is no God, and that the stories are different because they’re responding to different circumstances within a community of people who claim to believe in that God. First your God is a creator. That’s great. But then he’s a destroyer. Then he’s warlord. Then he’s absent for a while. then he’s an unrepentant interventionist. Then he’s a repentant interventionist. Then he’s nowhere to be found, sulking somewhere because things aren’t working out. Then he’s a puny human. Then he’s dead. Then he’s alive. Now he’s listening. Now he’s not. First he makes, then he breaks. Give life, kill. (I’ve known people who act like that God. I generally try to stay away from them and never rely on them for anything.)

    Eventually, you get enough contradictory stories so you start making up a meta-story about how God is just too big for anybody to understand. But rather than presenting himself as just being too big for anybody to understand, this God just shows up and acts like your bipolar sister, hoping you’ll figure it out eventually. If God wants to be worshiped and adored, then he should take a lesson from Howard Dean: you can’t scream like a maniac and still command respect.

    Posted 12 Apr 2006 at 12:08 pm

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