"And those of us who read liberal blogs also know that this grandstanding by the congress is a purely political move designed to appease the religious right and that the legal maneuverings being employed would be anathema to any true small government conservative." - Hullabaloo
Since when does someone have to be a conservative Republican to look out for the underdog? I'm getting really sick of the Left accusing the Right of grandstanding and manipulating people by supporting pro-life causes. Heaven forbid they accept the idea that SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY GIVE A RAT'S BEHIND ABOUT RESPECTING THE SANCTITY OF LIFE FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH!. Are some Republicans using Terri's condition, the fight over abortion, and the stem cell debate to get votes? Probably. Are they all? There are probably as many of them doing that as there are Democrats spinning gay rights and environmental issues into votes. When are Americans going to wake up and realize both sides are corrupt and self-serving?
Anyhow, I am not a conservative. Most of my good buddies are not conservatives. Stop labeling us as such on account of life issues! While you're at it, stop accusing all Republicans of being evil soul-sucking wet blankets who only care about money and power. Sometimes watching the news and reading blogs is like watching immature kids fighting at recess. "You're a booger head!", says the Lefty to the Righty. "You smell like poo!", responds the Righty to the Lefty.
Then again, abusus non tollit usus. Sometimes criticism is deserved:
"By now most people who read liberal blogs are aware that George W. Bush signed a law in Texas that expressly gave hospitals the right to remove life support if the patient could not pay and there was no hope of revival, regardless of the patient's family's wishes. It is called the Texas Futile Care Law. Under this law, a baby was removed from life support against his mother's wishes in Texas just this week. A 68 year old man was given a temporary reprieve by the Texas courts just yesterday. "
After this Schiavo business calms down, Dubya ought to be taken to task for his hypocrisy. However, just because Bush was wrong to sign that law in Texas doesn't make a cruel death for Terri Schiavo right, either.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Three lefts do. And three lefts make a right. Keep that in mind the next time you hear extremists from both sides calling each other names.
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regardless of the good intentions of many like yourself, the reason this issue is getting so much attention by the gov't is that it also is a (cost) effective wedge issue.
People involved with Terri's situation say she is in a Permanent Vegetative State. She does not respond to external input. Maybe it is time to let her go?
I don't know about that for sure. I do believe that we believers will all be resurrected some day and so to keep someone in a PVS alive indefinitely doesn't seem to serve the establishement of the kingship of God. I do know that this issue is being manipulated for partisan political gain and that there are many other important issues that deserve more attention than they are currently getting.
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Posted 22 Mar 2005 at 3:42 am ¶Personally, I consider you leaning right more than anything. I know I lean more left, except I don't in issues like this. I also appreciate Blessed Mother Theresa and St. Francis and try to emulate their patience and kindness toward all.
But sometimes, the extremes are there to point out the problems the other side has so that neither "gets away" with inconsistencies. This problem Bush has is very infuriating. His stance on the death penalty disgusts me, especially as someone who has seen what jail time does to a mentally handicapped person, let alone holding them responsible to capital punishment. And people reading the newspapers don't understand that there are few good men (and there are just few women in general) in politics, including the President.
If we could have the Pope or someone like him run for office, I think I'd actually agree on "In God We Trust" on our money. Right now, I think it defiles my idea of who and what God is.
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Posted 22 Mar 2005 at 4:01 am ¶A leaning is one thing, but swallowing one side's rhetoric whole is another. I am not a conservative as John Q. Public understands the word, and I am offended when called one. This conversation has given me some insight into my blogging habits, both reading and writing. I need to be more diverse in the causes I support. I've gotten so tied up in life science and family issues that I've lost sight of the beatitudes and Christ's preview of judgement (Matthew 25).
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Posted 22 Mar 2005 at 4:28 am ¶DLW, have you seen the videos at Terrisfight.org? If you had, you might not be so quick to believe she's truly unresponsive. If she has demonstrated a tenth of the responsiveness previous nurses and her parents have described, she does not fit the state of Florida's definition for PVS.
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Posted 22 Mar 2005 at 4:30 am ¶Funky, I'm for supporting various causes for the beautitudes, but the systematic killing of 1.6M people, as you've pointed out before, trumps many things.
Also, it's easy to blog about something like abortion, where wrongs often occur because people have the wrong idea about when life/personhood (depending on the debate) begins, or what options are there, but as for poverty, blogging about poverty can be useful, but real poverty work may take place in "the big blue room", and not on the Internet (good articles on the nature of poverty and effective outreaches are of course an exception!).
There are those who do have "marches against poverty" amongst the chronically-inflammed activists in the University community, and while I admire the general sentiment, I find marching to be an odd way to fight poverty. Ask anyone on the street if he thinks being poor is bad, and he'll probably agree with you.
Americans have a fair amount of agreement that some sort of public effort, to say nothing of private charity, to fight poverty. Following up on that sentiment requires elbow-grease, not "an immediate discussion", to quote "The Life of Brian". Abortion, however, is the current counterculture, and while we need concrete charity for women and children, there's a lot of teaching and clarification to do as well.
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