Engaged Encounter Part II: Three to Get Married?

Group Discussion Session

Here's What I Think

Gives an informal setting for the couples to discuss the many concerns that arise in their minds, including questions about birth control, finances, career, in-laws, pre-marital sex, inter- , etc. This free flowing exchange of information and opinions often helps clear the air on many misconceptions about the teaching and policy of the Church.

Questions were submitted anonymously and selected at random to be asked and answered. I sked something like the following.

"Why hasn't there been any mention of the sacramentality of ? Why has Christ's name been used so infrequently? Why has Scripture been quoted so sparingly? Why has the Christian character of this retreat been so timid? What's so about this encounter?"

The answer I got was thoroughly unsatisfying. It was some evasive bunk about respecting other faiths. You can respect other faiths while presenting as a . In fact, someone of another might be inspired by such descriptions to learn more. Beyond my question there was absolutely no mention of Church teachings.

Wedding: The Beginning of Our

Our is a Sign of God's Love

In this presentation we become aware that we become a of the Church. Examples are shared in beauty of daily living our . Through our lived examples there is a greater understanding of "A Wedding is a Day, a is a Lifetime" and how it is personified. We are church and are dependent on moral and spiritual support of the people of our communities who touch our lives.

In the , is a . A is God's presence and for us revealed in a visible actioin or relationship. When we see a married couple's , we believe that God is present there. The couple become ministers of the to each other and mirror God's through daily acts of loving, serving and forgiving.

  1. I first realized that I loved you when…I first realized that you loved me when…What made me realize that out was meant for ?
  2. In which of the following areas have you helped me experience God's ? When?
    • Your openneswith me
    • The way you listen to me
    • The way you respond out of consideration for me
    • The way you heal/forgive my shortcomings
    • The way you treat me
  3. How do I feel about God being part of our and us being a sign of God's ?
  4. Why is being married in the Church important to me?
  5. What does becoming a with you mean to me?
  6. How can we make visible our sacramental to others - family, friends, Church

So it was Sunday when they finally uttered the word "". At this point, we were tired from all he writing and talking and weary of the repetitive format. Our receptiveness was certainly not appropriate for such a serious topic.

Betrothal

Are We Ready?

In this presenation, we begin to understand that OUR is a call to become part of the Church. The team illustrates the difference between preparation for a wedding day (engagement) and preparation for a lifetime of (betrothal).

This talk encourages couples to:

  1. Assess where we are in our preparation for a Sacramental ;
  2. State what we need to do individually and as a couple to prepare for ;
  3. Affirm each other, Christ and the Church and our pledge to work on our relationship.

Betrothal is a public pledge of and commitment to take practical, concrete steps to prepare for the of . Betrothal is a deeper part of engagement, one that focuses on your own relationship and how it realtes to God, Chrch, and family.

If you are ready to make your pledge, you may wish to begin this way:

"Because I you, I plan to work on deepening our realtionship between now and our wedding day by…"

You may also wish to focus on the following:

  • Our relationship needs to develop more in the areas of…
  • Your strength is important to me in the areas of..

If you are not ready tp make a Betrothal Pledge, you may wish to begin in one of these ways:

  • My truest and deepest way to you is to be open and honest and tell you…
  • Although I care for you, I cannot commit myself to this deeper preparation…
  • I think we need more time and this is what I would like to see us work at…

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Comments 4

  1. Tom wrote:

    That's really weak. I wonder if any of the couples there will actually follow the teaching on contraception. With such lame catechesis, I really can't say that I blame people for not.

    Interesting thought you had about teaching a pre-Cana class using Theology of the Body as the primary source. Another good candidate would be the writings of St. John Chrysostom, the Eastern Doctor whose teachings regarding marriage and family are one of the bases of the ideas we have about Christian love. (As a sidebar, Chrysostom is pretty much the #1 doctor in the Orthodox world, but their follow-up on his doctrines regarding contraception has been really, really weak.)

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    Posted 30 Sep 2004 at 7:31 am
  2. regina doman wrote:

    We hated our Engaged Encounter too but we really appreciated the Marriage Encounter retreat we took (ten years later). The rules for arguing was about the best part of the weekend, btw, and got the most use by us.

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    Posted 15 Feb 2006 at 9:29 pm
  3. Mary Harlan wrote:

    My parents began the Engaged Encounter in the 60's. It was not meant to be a "Catholic" experience but an experience for the engaged couple. If you did not attend the Engaged Encounter in the Detroit area, the you attended an off shoot that someone rewrote. In Detroit, when a priest can be found, he comes only to say mass and bless rings. The priest NEVER presents a topic. None of the material was ever copyright protected as my parents felt it could benefit all.

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    Posted 25 Jun 2008 at 5:56 am
  4. Funky Dung wrote:

    Did your parents intend for EE to satisfy diocesan pre-cana requirements? If not, then I'd applaud it as a useful crash course in the psychological and relational aspects of marriage. Whoever decided that this material was adequate for Catholic pre-cana was very wrong. Preparation for the sacrament of Holy Matrimony requires more than EE (as I experienced it) offers. If a weekend is to call itself Catholic Engaged Encounter, it had better present material that authentically represents orthodox Catholicism.

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    Posted 25 Jun 2008 at 6:32 am

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