Fake Precision

Here’s another adventure in what may become a regular feature, “Debunk the Statistical
Conclusions”. This time it’s a survey about Catholic voting preferences.

Keep in mind that the margin for error is +/- 5%.

In the most recent poll, Catholic registered voters favored Kerry by a 51 percent to 45 percent margin.

Adjusting for the error margin, Kerry potentially has 46% to 56% of the Catholic vote and Bush has 40% to 50%. I wouldn’t assume Kerry really has the lead until either the margin for error drops or Kerry’s lowest percentage beats Bush’s highest. The sample size may not have been large enough to be predictive. Furthermore, we’re not given the sample breakdown. There may be a selection bias.

Combined data from Gallup’s two most recent polls, conducted July 19-21 and July 30-Aug. 1, show that Catholic registered voters, who attend church weekly, support Bush over Kerry by a 52 percent to 42 percent margin. This group represents about one-third of all Catholic registered voters.

Among Catholic registered voters, who attend church on a semi-regular basis, that is, nearly every week or monthly, Kerry leads Bush by 50 percent to 45 percent. This group represents 27 percent of all Catholic registered voters.

Among Catholic registered voters who attend church on an infrequent basis, Kerry has a 57 percent to 39 percent lead. This is the largest group of Catholics, representing 38 percent of all Catholic registered voters.

What we’re actually looking at are 37% to 47% vs. 47% to 57%, 45% to 55% vs. 40% to 50%, and 52% to 62% vs. 34% to 44% for Kerry and Bush, respectively. The only group with a clear preference is the marginal Catholics. The strict Catholics are just shy of definitive and the semi-regular Catholics are a toss-up.

Now let’s look at the population breakup. From the strict Catholics, Kerry gets (rounding to the nearest whole percent) 13% to 16% and Bush gets 16% to 20%. From semi-regular mass attenders, Kerry gets 12% to 15% and Bush gets 11% to 14%. From marginal Catholics, Kerry gets 20% to 24% and Bush gets 13% to 17%.

Total it all up (and rounding to nearest whole percent) and Kerry has 45% to 55% and Bush has 40% to 51%. The survey gives 51% to 45%. If I were to take the middle of the ranges, I’d get 50% to 45%. That’s close enough for government work.

Ok, so I’ve bored you to tears with math. Am I getting to a point? Yes, it’s that Catholic voters aren’t going to hand either candidate a landslide victory. Don’t believe me? Here’s one more piece of math. Catholics make up about 25% of this country’s population. That means that, based on this survey, Kerry can expect about a 14% contribution to the popular vote and Bush can expect about 11%. Kerry and Bush would need another 37% and 40%, respectively if the popular vote decided the election, which it doesn’t. Doesn’t look like such a significant margin now, does it? I’m not saying it doesn’t look a little better for Kerry, but he’s not likely to break out the champagne over this.

One last thing…

Historically, Catholics voted for the Democratic presidential candidate in large part. However, in the past three decades, Catholics, who comprise 25 percent of the U.S. population, have become a key swing voting group. They proved their influence on election results when they broke with their historical voting pattern to support the winning Republican candidates in 1972, 1980, and 1984.

I’m quite curious to see just how strongly Catholics backed candidates in those elections.

(The basis for this analysis “Fake Precision” on Fallacy Files)

[An observant reader pointed out that the sample breakdown doesn’t add up to 100%. To make that happen, the “about one third” must be interpreted as 35%. I also accidentally swapped Bush and Kerry’s numbers in a couple places. I’ve adjusted my numbers and interpretations to reflect that. – Funky]

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About Funky Dung

Who is Funky Dung? 29-year-old grad student in Intelligent Systems (A.I.) at the University of Pittsburgh. I consider myself to be politically moderate and independent and somewhere between a traditional and neo-traditional Catholic. I was raised Lutheran, spent a number of years as an agnostic, and joined the Catholic Church at the 2000 Easter Vigil. Why Funky Dung? I haven't been asked this question nearly as many times as you or I might expect. Funky Dung is a reference to an obscure Pink Floyd song. On the album Atom Heart Mother, there is a track called Atom Heart Mother Suite. It's broken up into movements, like a symphony, and one of the movements is called Funky Dung. I picked that nickname a long time ago (while I was still in high school I think), shortly after getting an internet connection for the first time. To me it means "cool/neat/groovy/spiffy stuff/crap/shiznit", as in "That's some cool stuff, dude!" Whence Ales Rarus? I used to enjoy making people guess what this means, but I've decided to relent and make it known to all. Ales Rarus is a Latin play on words. "Avis rarus" means "a rare bird" and carries similar meaning to "an odd fellow". "Ales" is another Latin word for bird that carries connotations of omens, signs of the times, and/or augery. If you want to get technical, both "avis" and "ales" are feminine (requiring "rara", but they can be made masculine in poetry (which tends to breaks lots of rules). I decided I'd rather have a masculine name in Latin. ;) Yeah, I'm a nerd. So what? :-P Wherefore blog? It is my intention to "teach in order to lead others to faith" by being always "on the lookout for occasions of announcing Christ by word, either to unbelievers . . . or to the faithful" through the "use of the communications media". I also act knowing that I "have the right and even at times a duty to manifest to the sacred pastors [my] opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church, and [I] have a right to make [my] opinion known to the other Christian faithful, with due regard to the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward [my and their] pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons." (adapted from CCC 904-907) Statement of Faith I have been baptized and confirmed in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I, therefore, renounce Satan; I renounce all his works; I renounce all his allurements. I hold and profess all that is contained in the Apostles' Creed, the Niceno- Constantinopolitan Creed, and the Athanasian Creed. Having been buried with Christ unto death and raised up with him unto a new life, I promise to live no longer for myself or for that world which is the enemy of God but for him who died for me and rose again, serving God, my heavenly Father, faithfully and unto death in the holy Catholic Church. I am obedient to the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. That is, I promote and defend authentic Catholic Teaching and Faith in union with Christ and His Church and in union with the Holy Father, the Bishop of Rome, the Successor of St. Peter. Thanks be unto Thee, O my God, for all Thy infinite goodness, and, especially, for the love Thou hast shown unto me at my Confirmation. I Give Thee thanks that Thou didst then send down Thy Holy Spirit unto my soul with all His gifts and graces. May He take full possession of me for ever. May His divine unction cause my face to shine. May His heavenly wisdom reign in my heart. May His understanding enlighten my darkness. May His counsel guide me. May His knowledge instruct me. May His piety make me fervent. May His divine fear keep me from all evil. Drive from my soul, O Lord, all that may defile it. Give me grace to be Thy faithful soldier, that having fought the good fight of faith, I may be brought to the crown of everlasting life, through the merits of Thy dearly beloved Son, our Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen. Behind the Curtain: an Interview With Funky Dung (Thursday, March 03, 2005) I try to avoid most memes that make their way 'round the blogosphere (We really do need a better name, don't we?), but some are worth participating in. Take for instance the "interview game" that's the talk o' the 'sphere. I think it's a great way to get to know the people in neighborhood. Who are the people in your neighborhood? In your neighborhod? In your neigh-bor-hoo-ood...*smack* Sorry, Sesame Street flashback. Anyhow, I saw Jeff "Curt Jester" Miller's answers and figured since he's a regular reader of mine he'd be a good interviewer. Without further ado, here are my answers to his questions. 1. Being that your pseudonym Funky Dung was chosen from a Pink Floyd track on Atom Heart Mother, what is you favorite Pink Floyd song and why? Wow. That's a tuffy. It's hard to pick out a single favorite. Pink Floyd isn't really a band known for singles. They mostly did album rock and my appreciation of them is mostly of a gestalt nature. If I had to pick one, though, it'd be "Comfortably Numb". I get chills up my spine every time I hear it and if it's been long enough since the last time, I get midty-eyed. I really don't know why. That's a rather unsatisfying answer for an interview, so here are the lyrics to a Rush song. It's not their best piece of music, but the lyrics describe me pretty well.

New World Man He's a rebel and a runner He's a signal turning green He's a restless young romantic Wants to run the big machine He's got a problem with his poisons But you know he'll find a cure He's cleaning up his systems To keep his nature pure Learning to match the beat of the old world man Learning to catch the heat of the third world man He's got to make his own mistakes And learn to mend the mess he makes He's old enough to know what's right But young enough not to choose it He's noble enough to win the world But weak enough to lose it --- He's a new world man... He's a radio receiver Tuned to factories and farms He's a writer and arranger And a young boy bearing arms He's got a problem with his power With weapons on patrol He's got to walk a fine line And keep his self-control Trying to save the day for the old world man Trying to pave the way for the third world man He's not concerned with yesterday He knows constant change is here today He's noble enough to know what's right But weak enough not to choose it He's wise enough to win the world But fool enough to lose it --- He's a new world man...
2. What do you consider your most important turning point from agnosticism to the Catholic Church. At some point in '99, I started attending RCIA at the Pittsburgh Oratory. I mostly went to ask a lot of obnoxious Protestant questions. Or at least that's what I told myself. I think deep down I wanted desperately to have faith again. At that point I think I'd decided that if any variety of Christianity had the Truth, the Catholic Church did. Protestantism's wholesale rejection of 1500 years of tradition didn't sit well with me, even as a former Lutheran. During class one week, Sister Bernadette Young (who runs the program) passed out thin booklet called "Handbook for Today's Catholic". One paragraph in that book spoke to me and I nearly cried as I read it.
"A person who is seeking deeper insight into reality may sometimes have doubts, even about God himself. Such doubts do not necessarily indicate lack of faith. They may be just the opposite - a sign of growing faith. Faith is alive and dynamic. It seeks, through grace, to penetrate into the very mystery of God. If a particular doctrine of faith no longer 'makes sense' to a person, the person should go right on seeking. To know what a doctrine says is one thing. To gain insight into its meaning through the gift of understanding is something else. When in doubt, 'Seek and you will find.' The person who seeks y reading, discussing, thinking, or praying eventually sees the light. The person who talks to God even when God is 'not there' is alive with faith."
At the end of class I told Sr. Bernadette that I wanted to enter the Church at the next Easter vigil. 3. If you were a tree what kind of, oh sorry about that .. what is the PODest thing you have ever done? I set up WikiIndex, a clearinghouse for reviews of theological books, good, bad, and ugly. It has a long way to go, but it'll be cool when it's finished. :) 4. What is your favorite quote from Venerable John Henry Newman? "Ten thousand difficulties do not make one doubt." 5. If you could ban one hymn from existence, what would it be? That's a tough one. As a member of the Society for a Moratorium on the Music of Marty Haugen and David Haas, there are obviously a lot of songs that grate on my nerves. If I had to pick one, though, I'd probably pick "Sing of the Lord's Goodness" by Ernie Sands.

4 thoughts on “Fake Precision

  1. EmilyE

    A few other thoughts:

    In 1972, Nixon won with 60+% of the vote and a whopping 520 electoral votes. I’m not surprised he got a majority of Catholic votes.

    In 1980, Reagan won with 51 percent of the vote and 489 electoral votes. So it makes sense that he also garnered the support of a large majority of Catholic voters.

    In 1984, Reagan won re-election with 59% of the popular vote and a full 525 electoral votes.

    It’s not like any of these were really close elections…

    Oh, and another thought: Catholic voters are considered important not because they make up 25% of the U.S. population, but because they are concentrated in several states. In the 2000 census, these were the states with the highest Catholic population (as a percentage): Rhode Island, 61 percent; Massachusetts, 49.8 percent; New Jersey, 42.6; New York, 40.4; Connecticut, 38.4; Wisconsin, 30.4, and Pennsylvania, 30 percent.

    Among them, these states have 106 electoral votes. Throw in California, which is nearly 30 percent Catholic, and you have a whole lot of electoral votes in Catholic-heavy states.

    The sad part, of course, is that most of those Catholic-heavy states always choose radical abortion-rights politicians…

  2. EmilyE

    First, I wouldn’t call either Ted Kennedy or John Kerry “moderate abortion-rights politicians.” Their voting records can speak for themselves.

    And the Democratic politicians aren’t an aristocratic wealthy elite? Yeah, right. They only pretend to care about the poor people. Where is their sense of charity? Far too often, it’s lacking.

    What this country needs is more Christians who are willing to help the poor by sacrificing that third car, that new computer, that vacation to Bermuda, to provide the basic necessities of life to those in need. The government can’t solve everything — Christians need to help out. We can’t sit around on our duffs and vote for Democratic candidates, thinking that if we do, poverty will miraculously disappear. It won’t unless we do something.

    And in the meantime, I will devote myself to helping the poor as much as I can, and helping the unborn babies too. Who ever said we had to choose between them?

  3. EmilyE

    The one thing I remember from my college statistics class is to *Always* be skeptical of survey and poll results. They can far too easily be manipulated (as you rightly note).

  4. John Thompson

    They choose moderate abortion-rights politicians, when their alternatives are members of a party that is devoted to the principle that poor people (or really all non-obscenely wealthy people) are deeply inferior, and exist only to serve the super-wealthy elite.
    Also, a party that advocate the death penalty, and wars of choice.

    I don’t like the trend developing in the Church to endorse Bush. It’s foolish. He is using the issue of abortion, which is really very low in his priorities to win over Catholic votes.

    Likewise, they tied up congress for three days with an anti-gay amendment that they knew they couldn’t even muster a simple majority for. Those were three days they could have used to improve our security aparatus.

    Christians in this country are being crassly manipulated in an attempt to concentrate power in an aristocratic wealthy elite.

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