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Saved

I forgot to mention something yesterday. Marty Minto‘s been on a bit of an anti-Catholic tirade for the last week. One of his listeners wrote in to ask if anyone who truly loved Jesus could go to Hell, even Catholics. I sent the following as part of an email to him during his broadcast.

“I was saved when Christ died for man’s sins.

I am being saved as I attempt carry my cross daily.

I hope to be saved when I face final judgment.

I love Jesus. He is my Lord and Savior. I know you feel the same way. We should work with each other, not against each other.”

He responded by saying he doesn’t think I’m saved! He said that those who are truly born again in the Spirit have assurance of salvation and to think otherwise suggests a lack of rebirth. I sent the following as a rebuttal, but he didn’t respond to all of it on-air.

Paul spoke of running a race (1 Cor 9:24), working out salvation with fear trembling (Phil 2:12), and completing what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions (Col 1:24). Obviously, endurance is called for.

When I say that I was saved, I mean that Christ’s sacrificial act redeemed mankind. Through baptism by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, we are buried with Christ and are entitled to rise with Him. Salvation is a gift. In order to be saved, however, we must actively accept that gift. Furthermore, that gift is not irrevocable. If we accept Christ one day and reject Him the next, we cannot possibly expect to be saved.

When I say that I am being saved, I mean that every day is a struggle and I know I can be led astray, lose hope, and lose faith.

When I say that I hope to be saved at the last judgment, I mean that I hope to persevere in Christ until the day I die. I pray that I will be counted among the sheep, rather than the goats. Not all who say “Lord, Lord” shall be allowed into the wedding banquet of Heaven.” I pray to be one who is.

Do I have any Evangelical Protestant readers who’d like to comment on this exchange? Anybody of any denomination want to chime in? What part of what I said is incompatible with “mere” Christianity (c.f. C.S. Lewis)?

Fundamentals

I sympathize with this group well. Sadly, the Roman Catholic Church may someday need their
services.

Conservative
Group Amplifies Voice of Protestant Orthodoxy

By LAURIE GOODSTEIN and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: May 22, 2004

“As Presbyterians prepare to gather for their General Assembly in Richmond, Va.,
next month, a band of determined conservatives is advancing a plan to split the
church along liberal and orthodox lines. Another divorce proposal shook the United
Methodist convention in Pittsburgh earlier this month, while conservative Episcopalians
have already broken away to form a dissident network of their own.”

United We Stand

Divided we fall. John Paul has pointed out something that I should keep in mind when I'm trying to protect the Church from heterodoxy.

Pope wants bishops to heal divisions in Church

"Pope John Paul II has told a number of bishops of the US that one of the most important tasks of a bishop is to address the 'worrisome phenomenon' of factions within the Church."

Round and Round We Go

It seems no matter how hard I try to move on, this topic just keeps coming back.
The repercussions are too important and the exchanges too interesting to ignore.

US politicians
warn of of anti-Catholic hate revival

“48 Catholic members of Congress have signed a letter warning that the church risks
bringing ‘great harm’ on itself if bishops decide to deny Communion to
legislators who support abortion rights or take other public positions that are
odds with church doctrine.”

American
Life League Response to House Catholics’ Letter to Cardinal McCarrick: Political
Threats Don’t Change Objective Truth, You Can’t Be Catholic

Thu May 20, 1:12 PM ET
Contact: Joseph R. Giganti of of American Life League, 703-928-9695, jgiganti@all.org

“WASHINGTON, May 20 /U.S. Newswire/ — Judie Brown, president of American Life League,
issued the following response to the 48 Catholic members of the U.S. House who sent
a letter warning Theodore Cardinal McCarrick to the political repercussions of withholding
Communion from pro-abortion Catholic politicians:”

Shape Up or Ship Out

It’s sad that Senator Kenny has turned his back on the Church, but at least he’ll
no longer be scandalizing it. I wonder if Governor McGreevey will continue to seek
communion in private. Either way, he has taken the honorable step of ceasing his
public dispute with the Church.

Agape
Press Commentary & News Briefs

Monday, May 10, 2004
Compiled by Jody Brown

” ..New Jersey’s State Senate majority leader has decided to leave the Roman Catholic
church after 57 years rather than vote in accordance with Catholic doctrine. Democratic
Senator Bernard Kenny, who supports permissive abortion laws and research on human
embryos, says he was given a last warning by church officials to repent or stop
seeking communion. Kenny says he told his pastor Saturday that he is quitting the
church. Last week, New Jersey Governor James McGreevey took the rare step of saying
that he will not receive communion at public services. McGreevey’s announcement
came after Newark Archbishop John Myers declared that supporters of legal abortion
should not receive communion, and the Camden bishop said he would refuse communion
to the Democratic governor. [AP]”