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		<title>By: cosmas</title>
		<link>http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2341#comment-10104</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 02:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other Emily,

There are quite a few dioceses, in fact 7, in the United States right now that are vacant...Youngstown, OH, and Birmingham, AL, have been vacant since about the time John Paul II died.  Sioux Falls, SD has been vacant since Dec. 2004.  Larger sees are filled more quickly, for example, right after Card. McCarrick's retirment was accepted, a new Archbishop of Washington was named.  I think that Pope Benedict will be very careful about whom he puts in Birmingham because he knows personally of history of the conflict between EWTN and the local ordinaries.  Youngstown doesn't have the same situation, but it seems like the Holy Father (and the new Apostolic Nuncio, Abp. Sambi) been careful with appointments and we need to be patient both in Youngstown and in the future in Pittsburgh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Other Emily,<br />
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There are quite a few dioceses, in fact 7, in the United States right now that are vacant&#8230;Youngstown, OH, and Birmingham, AL, have been vacant since about the time John Paul II died.  Sioux Falls, SD has been vacant since Dec. 2004.  Larger sees are filled more quickly, for example, right after Card. McCarrick&#039;s retirment was accepted, a new Archbishop of Washington was named.  I think that Pope Benedict will be very careful about whom he puts in Birmingham because he knows personally of history of the conflict between EWTN and the local ordinaries.  Youngstown doesn&#039;t have the same situation, but it seems like the Holy Father (and the new Apostolic Nuncio, Abp. Sambi) been careful with appointments and we need to be patient both in Youngstown and in the future in Pittsburgh.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: The other Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 23:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I ask:  Where is the bishop of Youngstown?  Youngstown has been waiting for another shepherd for more than a year, since the end of March 2005.  We continue to pray, but some people in the diocese have been very discouraged as other sees (made vacant more recently) have received bishops before Youngstown.  

Kyrie eleison...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Again, I ask:  Where is the bishop of Youngstown?  Youngstown has been waiting for another shepherd for more than a year, since the end of March 2005.  We continue to pray, but some people in the diocese have been very discouraged as other sees (made vacant more recently) have received bishops before Youngstown.  <br />
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Kyrie eleison&#8230;]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rat</title>
		<link>http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2341#comment-10023</link>
		<dc:creator>rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 17:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily T said - "We should pray."

I completely agree - it's fun and all to engage in speculation, but don't forget that now's a great time for some old-fashioned prayer and fasting.  Both for Archbishop-Designate Wuerl, and for the Church in Pittsburgh as she awaits a new shepherd.

I had the good fortune to briefly talk to Fr. B today - but I forgot to mention the people's desire to see him in a Bishop's mitre ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Emily T said - &#034;We should pray.&#034;<br />
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I completely agree - it&#039;s fun and all to engage in speculation, but don&#039;t forget that now&#039;s a great time for some old-fashioned prayer and fasting.  Both for Archbishop-Designate Wuerl, and for the Church in Pittsburgh as she awaits a new shepherd.<br />
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I had the good fortune to briefly talk to Fr. B today - but I forgot to mention the people&#039;s desire to see him in a Bishop&#039;s mitre <img src='http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anthrakeus</title>
		<link>http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2341#comment-10014</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthrakeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 05:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom &#38; edey, regarding religious orders, you're both right. Some orders choose not to expand; some are not entirely welcome (depending on the diocese and the order). For the most part, however, bishops don't micro-manage these things. If they see a particular need, they fill it. That's why Bishop Wright brought the Oratorians to Pittsburgh, it's why Bishop Tobin brought the FSSP to Youngstown. However, by and large, the situation in America rarely requires new orders (at least in the mind of bishops). Everything's getting taken care of (again, in the mind of bishops).

Bishop Wuerl tended not to like male religious in his diocese (so they weren't getting an invite). There are a reasonable number of women's religious in Pittsburgh. You may not like them, but that's another matter.

Emily, generally auxiliary bishops don't succeed to the sees in which they are auxiliaries because those sees are usually quite large and important. Too much for a first time appointment. Pittsburgh just happens to be small enough that it could happen. Oddly enough, while only Bishop Leonard was an auxiliary before becoming the ordinary, Phelan, Canevin and Cardinal Dearden all succeeded to Pittsburgh after being made coadjutors (which more or less gives a bishop automatic succession). 

I'm all for Bishop Summers (hey we have an auxiliary bishop Winter- let's go for the match set). I recommend we call the Vatican. Does any one know a few curial cardinals who owe a few favors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Tom &amp; edey, regarding religious orders, you&#039;re both right. Some orders choose not to expand; some are not entirely welcome (depending on the diocese and the order). For the most part, however, bishops don&#039;t micro-manage these things. If they see a particular need, they fill it. That&#039;s why Bishop Wright brought the Oratorians to Pittsburgh, it&#039;s why Bishop Tobin brought the FSSP to Youngstown. However, by and large, the situation in America rarely requires new orders (at least in the mind of bishops). Everything&#039;s getting taken care of (again, in the mind of bishops).<br />
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Bishop Wuerl tended not to like male religious in his diocese (so they weren&#039;t getting an invite). There are a reasonable number of women&#039;s religious in Pittsburgh. You may not like them, but that&#039;s another matter.<br />
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Emily, generally auxiliary bishops don&#039;t succeed to the sees in which they are auxiliaries because those sees are usually quite large and important. Too much for a first time appointment. Pittsburgh just happens to be small enough that it could happen. Oddly enough, while only Bishop Leonard was an auxiliary before becoming the ordinary, Phelan, Canevin and Cardinal Dearden all succeeded to Pittsburgh after being made coadjutors (which more or less gives a bishop automatic succession). <br />
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I&#039;m all for Bishop Summers (hey we have an auxiliary bishop Winter- let&#039;s go for the match set). I recommend we call the Vatican. Does any one know a few curial cardinals who owe a few favors?]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rat</title>
		<link>http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2341#comment-10011</link>
		<dc:creator>rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 02:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somewhat off-topic question (sorry): Does anyone know anything about today's other episcopal appointment, Bishop Sartain to the Diocese of Joliet? Obviously Bishop Wuerl heading to Washington is bigger news, both locally and nationally, but the Joliet Diocese is where I grew up, so I'm kinda curious... I know next-to-nothing about Bp. Sartain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Somewhat off-topic question (sorry): Does anyone know anything about today&#039;s other episcopal appointment, Bishop Sartain to the Diocese of Joliet? Obviously Bishop Wuerl heading to Washington is bigger news, both locally and nationally, but the Joliet Diocese is where I grew up, so I&#039;m kinda curious&#8230; I know next-to-nothing about Bp. Sartain.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: edey</title>
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		<dc:creator>edey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 00:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it depends on the order. maybe more established orthodox orders like the nashville dominicans (or--if they have the numbers--some heterodox orders), but the "young" (aka less than ~20 years old) orders seem to want to become more established before "branching out" and when they branch out they want to do so at a reasonable pace so they dont' spread themselves too thin. that's what i've noticed from talking to a few bishops and a fair number of orthodox women's orders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[i think it depends on the order. maybe more established orthodox orders like the nashville dominicans (or&#8211;if they have the numbers&#8211;some heterodox orders), but the &#034;young&#034; (aka less than ~20 years old) orders seem to want to become more established before &#034;branching out&#034; and when they branch out they want to do so at a reasonable pace so they dont&#039; spread themselves too thin. that&#039;s what i&#039;ve noticed from talking to a few bishops and a fair number of orthodox women&#039;s orders.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tom Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 00:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With religious orders, I think it's typically the other way around:  they desire to move to a particular place, and need the bishop's indult to do so. . . though I may be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[With religious orders, I think it&#039;s typically the other way around:  they desire to move to a particular place, and need the bishop&#039;s indult to do so. . . though I may be wrong.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: edey</title>
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		<dc:creator>edey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 18:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bishop gomez, the former auxilary bishop of denver got his own See. he's now archbishop of San Antonio.

some of the solid religious orders aren't ready to branch out yet, though. for example, the sisters of life and the dominican sisters of Mary, mother of the Eucharist have been invited to other places, but want to become more "established" first. so, you never know. wuerl *could* be inviting orders but just hasn't invited ones who are ready yet. unlikely, but possible.

chaput or burke would be nice...or bruskewitz. ok, so chaput and burke aren't gonna come...but maybe bruskewitz. ;)

i'm with eric, tho, Fr b for bishop :) (i know that's not gonna happen either)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[bishop gomez, the former auxilary bishop of denver got his own See. he&#039;s now archbishop of San Antonio.<br />
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some of the solid religious orders aren&#039;t ready to branch out yet, though. for example, the sisters of life and the dominican sisters of Mary, mother of the Eucharist have been invited to other places, but want to become more &#034;established&#034; first. so, you never know. wuerl *could* be inviting orders but just hasn&#039;t invited ones who are ready yet. unlikely, but possible.<br />
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chaput or burke would be nice&#8230;or bruskewitz. ok, so chaput and burke aren&#039;t gonna come&#8230;but maybe bruskewitz. <img src='http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />
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i&#039;m with eric, tho, Fr b for bishop <img src='http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> (i know that&#039;s not gonna happen either)]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Emily T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I heard somewhere that auxilliary bishops aren't typically elevated.  

It'd be nice to have the next bishop bring some good religious orders into the area.  I think Pittsburgh could be set on fire with some solid orders.  

Someone more like Chaput than Trautman and I'll be happy.  :-)  We should pray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[I thought I heard somewhere that auxilliary bishops aren&#039;t typically elevated.  <br />
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It&#039;d be nice to have the next bishop bring some good religious orders into the area.  I think Pittsburgh could be set on fire with some solid orders.  <br />
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Someone more like Chaput than Trautman and I&#039;ll be happy.  <img src='http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  We should pray.]]></content:encoded>
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