http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2020 A Rare Bird, A Strange Duck, One Funky Blog Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:40:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2020#comment-3541 Tom Smith Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archive/2031#comment-3541 I think I agree, although there's one thing I'd clarify:<br /><br />"Membership in the elect is not made permanent at initiation."<br /><br />I was under the impression that the term "elect" was used most frequently to refer to a person's being predestined for salvation. So one is either elected or not, and cannot change back and forth between being elect and being reprobate. Then again, I may be wrong.
"Membership in the elect is not made permanent at initiation."

I was under the impression that the term "elect" was used most frequently to refer to a person's being predestined for salvation. So one is either elected or not, and cannot change back and forth between being elect and being reprobate. Then again, I may be wrong.]]> http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2020#comment-3542 Tom Smith Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archive/2031#comment-3542 Since Holy Orders causes an ontological change in the soul of the ordinand, I'd say that it belongs in the "irresistable grace" category, as should Confession. Matrimony I would tend to put under "resistable grace." http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2020#comment-3543 dlw Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archive/2031#comment-3543 Total Deparavity? I knew there was a reason I have such a hard time understanding/accepting Catholic doctrine! ;)<br /><br />dlw

dlw]]> http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2020#comment-3544 David Ketter Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archive/2031#comment-3544 Good definitions...linking to this article at <a href="http://theaccount.blogspot.com/2005/10/predestination-roundup.html">The Account</a>. You might be interested in my own article called <a href="http://theaccount.blogspot.com/2005/10/predestination-biblical-concept.html>Predestination: A Biblical Concept</a>. Note that I am neither Calvinist or Arminian. :) The Account. You might be interested in my own article called http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archive/2031#comment-3545 "Total Deparavity? I knew there was a reason I have such a hard time understanding/accepting Catholic doctrine!"<br /><br />Dude, no! Total Depravity is a Calvinist belief.
Dude, no! Total Depravity is a Calvinist belief.]]> http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2020#comment-3546 Funky Dung Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archive/2031#comment-3546 <i>"Dude, no! Total Depravity is a Calvinist belief."</i><br /><br />Read Jimmy Akin's "Tiptoe Through TULIP", which the post links to. "Dude, no! Total Depravity is a Calvinist belief."

Read Jimmy Akin's "Tiptoe Through TULIP", which the post links to.]]> http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2020#comment-3547 Tom Smith Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archive/2031#comment-3547 A few months ago, I did.<br /><br />I was pointing out the fact that Catholics do not explicate the belief in the same way (for good reason, I think). It's kind of like how the Orthodox don't believe in the Assumption, but the Dormition, when really, they're about the same thing.
I was pointing out the fact that Catholics do not explicate the belief in the same way (for good reason, I think). It's kind of like how the Orthodox don't believe in the Assumption, but the Dormition, when really, they're about the same thing.]]> http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2020#comment-3548 hallq Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archive/2031#comment-3548 Well argued. The comments on the elephant, bank robberies and car crashes provide an angle on this issue I've not seen before. http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/2020#comment-3549 Funky Dung Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archive/2031#comment-3549 Thanks for stopping by and commenting, hallq, but I think you meant to respond to the next post up. :) ]]>