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	<title>Comments on: Noooooooooooo!</title>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, in the picture of the St. Louis Jesuits, not a collar or cassock in sight. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hmm, in the picture of the St. Louis Jesuits, not a collar or cassock in sight. I suppose I shouldn&#039;t be surprised.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Therese Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Therese Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't hate all their music, but once I learned about their lifestyle choices and liberal religious views, I felt more than a little queasy. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the warning. I'll brace myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[I don&#039;t hate all their music, but once I learned about their lifestyle choices and liberal religious views, I felt more than a little queasy. <br /><br />Thanks for the warning. I&#039;ll brace myself.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tom Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess they just have to bolster the quickly-fading bad liturgical music industry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To me, there seem to be a few ways to spot bad liturgical music.  The first major hallmark is the use of first-person speech of bible verses.  For instance:  "I, the Lord of sea and sky/ I have heard my people cry".  I can't remember what tune it's from; it suffices to say it's a bad one.  Anyway, putting the Lord's words in the laity's mouths is simply goofy.  Why do it?  There's no element of worship to it, and none of praise.  And it's not at all catechetical, either.  (Then again, I wouldn't really want the people who write these hymns trying to be catechetical.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, bad hymns typically have vague titles that don't convey much of anything.  For instance, my home parish is fond of David Haas and Tom Booth, who has put out such classics as City of God (which has nothing to do with St Augustine, if you were wondering).  I can't think of others off the top of my head, but I'm sure flipping through an Oregon Catholic Press hymnal would yield a few doozies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lastly, it seems to me that modern hymns employ symbols that are unfound in tradition, whereas traditional hymns typically utilize metaphors and symbols which are found in Scripture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's really sriking to go and find an old hymnal, and compare it to the modern schlocktastic crap.  At Mater Ecclesiae chapel, where I go to Mass when I'm visiting home, they have the New St. Basil Hymnal (1958), and the SSPX hymnal, both of which employ Gregorian notation for certain hymns, and have hymns that are specifically designed for each liturgical season or feast type, whereas modern hymns don't seem to have specific themes or purposes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My problem with appropriating popular musical forms is that religion would be simply requisitioning forms that are completely secular in their history and past purpose, whereas traditional hymnody is inherently religious and has evolved as such without a change in purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[I guess they just have to bolster the quickly-fading bad liturgical music industry.<br /><br />To me, there seem to be a few ways to spot bad liturgical music.  The first major hallmark is the use of first-person speech of bible verses.  For instance:  &#034;I, the Lord of sea and sky/ I have heard my people cry&#034;.  I can&#039;t remember what tune it&#039;s from; it suffices to say it&#039;s a bad one.  Anyway, putting the Lord&#039;s words in the laity&#039;s mouths is simply goofy.  Why do it?  There&#039;s no element of worship to it, and none of praise.  And it&#039;s not at all catechetical, either.  (Then again, I wouldn&#039;t really want the people who write these hymns trying to be catechetical.)<br /><br />Secondly, bad hymns typically have vague titles that don&#039;t convey much of anything.  For instance, my home parish is fond of David Haas and Tom Booth, who has put out such classics as City of God (which has nothing to do with St Augustine, if you were wondering).  I can&#039;t think of others off the top of my head, but I&#039;m sure flipping through an Oregon Catholic Press hymnal would yield a few doozies.<br /><br />Lastly, it seems to me that modern hymns employ symbols that are unfound in tradition, whereas traditional hymns typically utilize metaphors and symbols which are found in Scripture.<br /><br />It&#039;s really sriking to go and find an old hymnal, and compare it to the modern schlocktastic crap.  At Mater Ecclesiae chapel, where I go to Mass when I&#039;m visiting home, they have the New St. Basil Hymnal (1958), and the SSPX hymnal, both of which employ Gregorian notation for certain hymns, and have hymns that are specifically designed for each liturgical season or feast type, whereas modern hymns don&#039;t seem to have specific themes or purposes.<br /><br />My problem with appropriating popular musical forms is that religion would be simply requisitioning forms that are completely secular in their history and past purpose, whereas traditional hymnody is inherently religious and has evolved as such without a change in purpose.]]></content:encoded>
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