Disenfranchised

I definitely sympathize with Democrats for Life.

"A Zogby poll showed 40 percent of self-declared Democrats say they oppose abortion."

How many Demcratic politicians are pro-life? I doubt it’s 40%. I’d be surprised if it’s as high as 4%.

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About Funky Dung

Who is Funky Dung? 29-year-old grad student in Intelligent Systems (A.I.) at the University of Pittsburgh. I consider myself to be politically moderate and independent and somewhere between a traditional and neo-traditional Catholic. I was raised Lutheran, spent a number of years as an agnostic, and joined the Catholic Church at the 2000 Easter Vigil. Why Funky Dung? I haven't been asked this question nearly as many times as you or I might expect. Funky Dung is a reference to an obscure Pink Floyd song. On the album Atom Heart Mother, there is a track called Atom Heart Mother Suite. It's broken up into movements, like a symphony, and one of the movements is called Funky Dung. I picked that nickname a long time ago (while I was still in high school I think), shortly after getting an internet connection for the first time. To me it means "cool/neat/groovy/spiffy stuff/crap/shiznit", as in "That's some cool stuff, dude!" Whence Ales Rarus? I used to enjoy making people guess what this means, but I've decided to relent and make it known to all. Ales Rarus is a Latin play on words. "Avis rarus" means "a rare bird" and carries similar meaning to "an odd fellow". "Ales" is another Latin word for bird that carries connotations of omens, signs of the times, and/or augery. If you want to get technical, both "avis" and "ales" are feminine (requiring "rara", but they can be made masculine in poetry (which tends to breaks lots of rules). I decided I'd rather have a masculine name in Latin. ;) Yeah, I'm a nerd. So what? :-P Wherefore blog? It is my intention to "teach in order to lead others to faith" by being always "on the lookout for occasions of announcing Christ by word, either to unbelievers . . . or to the faithful" through the "use of the communications media". I also act knowing that I "have the right and even at times a duty to manifest to the sacred pastors [my] opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church, and [I] have a right to make [my] opinion known to the other Christian faithful, with due regard to the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward [my and their] pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons." (adapted from CCC 904-907) Statement of Faith I have been baptized and confirmed in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I, therefore, renounce Satan; I renounce all his works; I renounce all his allurements. I hold and profess all that is contained in the Apostles' Creed, the Niceno- Constantinopolitan Creed, and the Athanasian Creed. Having been buried with Christ unto death and raised up with him unto a new life, I promise to live no longer for myself or for that world which is the enemy of God but for him who died for me and rose again, serving God, my heavenly Father, faithfully and unto death in the holy Catholic Church. I am obedient to the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. That is, I promote and defend authentic Catholic Teaching and Faith in union with Christ and His Church and in union with the Holy Father, the Bishop of Rome, the Successor of St. Peter. Thanks be unto Thee, O my God, for all Thy infinite goodness, and, especially, for the love Thou hast shown unto me at my Confirmation. I Give Thee thanks that Thou didst then send down Thy Holy Spirit unto my soul with all His gifts and graces. May He take full possession of me for ever. May His divine unction cause my face to shine. May His heavenly wisdom reign in my heart. May His understanding enlighten my darkness. May His counsel guide me. May His knowledge instruct me. May His piety make me fervent. May His divine fear keep me from all evil. Drive from my soul, O Lord, all that may defile it. Give me grace to be Thy faithful soldier, that having fought the good fight of faith, I may be brought to the crown of everlasting life, through the merits of Thy dearly beloved Son, our Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen. Behind the Curtain: an Interview With Funky Dung (Thursday, March 03, 2005) I try to avoid most memes that make their way 'round the blogosphere (We really do need a better name, don't we?), but some are worth participating in. Take for instance the "interview game" that's the talk o' the 'sphere. I think it's a great way to get to know the people in neighborhood. Who are the people in your neighborhood? In your neighborhod? In your neigh-bor-hoo-ood...*smack* Sorry, Sesame Street flashback. Anyhow, I saw Jeff "Curt Jester" Miller's answers and figured since he's a regular reader of mine he'd be a good interviewer. Without further ado, here are my answers to his questions. 1. Being that your pseudonym Funky Dung was chosen from a Pink Floyd track on Atom Heart Mother, what is you favorite Pink Floyd song and why? Wow. That's a tuffy. It's hard to pick out a single favorite. Pink Floyd isn't really a band known for singles. They mostly did album rock and my appreciation of them is mostly of a gestalt nature. If I had to pick one, though, it'd be "Comfortably Numb". I get chills up my spine every time I hear it and if it's been long enough since the last time, I get midty-eyed. I really don't know why. That's a rather unsatisfying answer for an interview, so here are the lyrics to a Rush song. It's not their best piece of music, but the lyrics describe me pretty well.

New World Man He's a rebel and a runner He's a signal turning green He's a restless young romantic Wants to run the big machine He's got a problem with his poisons But you know he'll find a cure He's cleaning up his systems To keep his nature pure Learning to match the beat of the old world man Learning to catch the heat of the third world man He's got to make his own mistakes And learn to mend the mess he makes He's old enough to know what's right But young enough not to choose it He's noble enough to win the world But weak enough to lose it --- He's a new world man... He's a radio receiver Tuned to factories and farms He's a writer and arranger And a young boy bearing arms He's got a problem with his power With weapons on patrol He's got to walk a fine line And keep his self-control Trying to save the day for the old world man Trying to pave the way for the third world man He's not concerned with yesterday He knows constant change is here today He's noble enough to know what's right But weak enough not to choose it He's wise enough to win the world But fool enough to lose it --- He's a new world man...
2. What do you consider your most important turning point from agnosticism to the Catholic Church. At some point in '99, I started attending RCIA at the Pittsburgh Oratory. I mostly went to ask a lot of obnoxious Protestant questions. Or at least that's what I told myself. I think deep down I wanted desperately to have faith again. At that point I think I'd decided that if any variety of Christianity had the Truth, the Catholic Church did. Protestantism's wholesale rejection of 1500 years of tradition didn't sit well with me, even as a former Lutheran. During class one week, Sister Bernadette Young (who runs the program) passed out thin booklet called "Handbook for Today's Catholic". One paragraph in that book spoke to me and I nearly cried as I read it.
"A person who is seeking deeper insight into reality may sometimes have doubts, even about God himself. Such doubts do not necessarily indicate lack of faith. They may be just the opposite - a sign of growing faith. Faith is alive and dynamic. It seeks, through grace, to penetrate into the very mystery of God. If a particular doctrine of faith no longer 'makes sense' to a person, the person should go right on seeking. To know what a doctrine says is one thing. To gain insight into its meaning through the gift of understanding is something else. When in doubt, 'Seek and you will find.' The person who seeks y reading, discussing, thinking, or praying eventually sees the light. The person who talks to God even when God is 'not there' is alive with faith."
At the end of class I told Sr. Bernadette that I wanted to enter the Church at the next Easter vigil. 3. If you were a tree what kind of, oh sorry about that .. what is the PODest thing you have ever done? I set up WikiIndex, a clearinghouse for reviews of theological books, good, bad, and ugly. It has a long way to go, but it'll be cool when it's finished. :) 4. What is your favorite quote from Venerable John Henry Newman? "Ten thousand difficulties do not make one doubt." 5. If you could ban one hymn from existence, what would it be? That's a tough one. As a member of the Society for a Moratorium on the Music of Marty Haugen and David Haas, there are obviously a lot of songs that grate on my nerves. If I had to pick one, though, I'd probably pick "Sing of the Lord's Goodness" by Ernie Sands.

19 thoughts on “Disenfranchised

  1. Funky Dung

    [I posted this comment in an older thread, but I’m repeating it here in the hopes of attracting more people to the conversation.]

    Your absolute sovereignty over your own actions ends when those actions endanger another person. Your limited speech example is a good one. A fetus is a human person. Thus any action which endangers that person must be curtailed. At the top of the list is abortion.

    If you deny the personhood of the fetus, fine. There should at least be lengthy discussion and reflection on the issue in the congressional fora. I haven’t seen that. All I’ve seen a lot of accusations of “anti-choice” mentality, as though pro-lifers get their jollies putting limits on peoples rights. The last time any serious reflection and discussion on the issue took place in the government was when the Supreme Court handled Roe v. Wade. It’s time to talk about it again. This time, medical science can weigh in on the issue (with 4D ultrasound images, for instance). Abortion is not a constitutional right. Like any Supreme Court decision, it can be overturned.

  2. John

    Abortion has always been forbidden. However, equating it to murder is relatively new.
    Also, the medieval church was well known for looking the other way on the matter.

  3. Jerry Nora

    As a Feminists for Life member for the past 5 years or so, I’d be all about making the pro-life movement more liberal-friendly. Heck, as a Students for Life president I worked on just that. I would not, however, try to push the conservatives back into the Goldwater camp. I’d rather work together with ’em; if both sides flip-flopped on abortion, we’d still have a deadlock in the government like we do now. At any rate, killing children should cut across party lines.

  4. steve

    But seriously… OK so what are we going to do? I’ve taken online survey after online survey. I’ve looked at the issues. On every issue EXCEPT “culture of life,” I am a hopeless democrat… and actually score my highest correlation with Nader. Yet I have voted Republican in nearly every election in which I was qualified to vote… and STILL, even at this late date, I am tempted to vote for Bush (whom I cannot stand) ONLY because he says the right words on “culture of life.” And this is in spite of the fact that, even if he is permitted to nominate a SC Justice in the next few years who is “strict constructionist” (fat chance with less than 60 republican senators), it won’t make a doggone bit of difference in the number of abortions performed in this country, since most (if not every) state would keep abortion legal.

    So, folks, what do I do? I want to grab the democratic party by the ‘nads and make them listen. I want to see a democratic party at least as open to “diversity” on issues of life as the republicans. But how do I make this happen? Do we need some sort of Christian Coalition for Christians who actually think the bible says something other than abortion is wrong, war is good, and tax-cuts are godly? Some sort of Pat Robertson-eque guy with more than half a brain that we can all rally around?

    I don’t know the answer…

    Help!!!

  5. John

    First, that anonymous post was by me, I just forgot to fill in the info bars.

    Also, it is worth noting the Church claiming that life begins at conception is a relatively new phenomina.
    Not that its newness undermines its legitimacy as an idea; I just always like pointing out that Church doctrine evolves with time.

  6. steve

    Hmmm… guess I was rather animated last night. A few more rather random observations:

    The Republican party takes absolutely for granted (ever since 1984) the Evangelical vote, nearly as much as the Democrats take blacks for granted. In return, they have delivered nothing (Okay, they delivered the ban on partial birth abortions which was wildly popular anyway.), probably about the same as the democrats have delivered to blacks in this same period. Other than nods, winks, and mindless platitudes, the Repubs have done nothing (probably less) for causes near and dear to the true heart of Christianity.

    The Republican party now takes for granted 1/2 the Catholic vote. Dems take for granted the other 1/2. This puts the Catholic voice (supposedly a huge swing block) slightly under that of Evangelicals, but… not to worry… half of nothing is still nothing.

    If the dems lose, they are in a real pickle–you’d be too if you couldn’t defeat the most unpopular president since Carter (the only actual evangelical to ever make it to the whitehouse, BTW), Nixon and Hoover. Oddly, if they lose, they may have to move to the left to keep Nader out of future elections, weaken the Greens, and re-energize their base. If they move farther to the right, then ignoring the fact that they start to smell like republicans, they get hammered in ’08 by Greens winning over 5% and becoming a more permanent fixture in the political landscape, which would please Republicans just fine.

    Now Catholics and Evangelical are (without any doubt) king-makers for the Republican party. If we pull out and even just don’t vote, there is absolutely no doubt that GWB loses, and it’s likely that congress goes Democrat also.

    So I have no idea what I’m saying, but consider this: Mrs. Bill Clinton or Kerry (if he wins ’04) vs. Giuliani/Schwartzenegger/(insert “moderate”-in the worst possible sense-Republican) in 2008. The election from Hell? Yes, but think of the opportunities to make the democratic party a bigger tent!

    Something we (Catholics and Evangelicals) need to do is to make Pro-life a liberal issue. It is, prima facie. There is nothing more liberal (populist) than sticking up for rights of the preborn. There is nothing more conservative than saying “get your laws of my body.” This is why Goldwater (who was conservative when conservative vs. liberal actually meant something) was decisively pro-choise. This is why Nevada has legalized gambling & prostitution–not because Nevadans are liberal but because they are mind-numbingly conservative… probably to a fault.

    Sorry no anwers.

    Cheers!

  7. Tom Smith

    I don’t want to distract from the current discussion, but. . .

    “Also, it is worth noting the Church claiming that life begins at conception is a relatively new phenomina.”

    It is a fairly new phenomenon, but only for the same reason that many Medieval theologians held to a more literal interpretation of Genesis than we would today: there was no reason not to; it represented the best scholarship possible at that point. We knew little about embryology until the 19th century; prior to that, it was believed that the fetus (or embryo, I don’t know which is which) was ensouled at the “quickening,” the first time that the mother could feel the fetus kick. Nowadays, we realize that there’s nothing particularly significant about that event.

    “Not that its newness undermines its legitimacy as an idea; I just always like pointing out that Church doctrine evolves with time.”

    Right, that’s an important point that many Catholics like to forget. If Catholics are to be honest with history, we have to realize that some things have changed with time. But that’s not to say that there are any contradictions between the magisterium of today and that of yesteryear.

  8. Jerry

    I submit that pro-life Democratic-types get busy with their blogs to see if we can get a pro-life candidate with our views perhaps within the Republican Party (i.e., get a pro-life “moderate” Republican–I used the quotes since when the media call a Republican moderate, it’s often code for being pro-choice…). Failing that, we should go third party and try to get a pro-life Nader to divide the Republican vote and force them to accomodate some different views. Maybe get a compassionate conservative who doesn’t forget what that means as soon as he gets elected.

  9. steve

    Jerry:

    Nothing would please me more than if the democrats & republicans flip-flopped on abortion. That would force the “Christian Right” to become the “Christian Left” (as it ought to be)–and leave the Republican “image” a lot closer to the reality of the past 84 years, viz., the arm and voice of business interest.

    Unfortunately, a flip-flop is unlikely. A smaller gain would be to make the democratic party a place for diverse viewpoints on issues of life.
    3 years ago, Kucinich was pro-life–until he started having national aspirations. 20 years ago, it would have been easy to find (and vote for) pro-life democrats, Al Gore among them. What happened is that what was to become the “Christian Right” (in a greedy but ultimately futile power grab) bet on the wrong horse–Reagan and the Republican party. This had the effect ceding the Democrats to pro-choice forces. And over time it became more and more difficult to be a pro-life democrat and simultaneously be elected.

    Bottom line: politicians don’t usually go much for principles… the reason that Gore, Kucinich and slew of others have changed their tune on the issues of life is that they are doing precisely what their contituencies want. Well, I for one vote that we (Christians) should once again make ourselves part of that constituency (holding our noses if we must).

    Supporting the Republicans all these years has had little or no positive (from a Christian point of view) effect on public policy. On the contrary it has only given us a bad reputation–which is I suppose what one deserves when one goes to bed with greedy capitalists and performs felatio for war-mongerers….

    In short (well quite long), a flip-flop would not result in deadlock because it would result in a landslide victory for the democrats. Short of a flip-flop, I think Christians actually have a better chance to work for change in the culture of life among Democrats, or at least outside the Republicans.

    And to be quite frank, a deadlock in government really ain’t so bad… especially if it keeps the current batch of politicians from getting their way! I believe gov’t can and ought to work for good… the only problem is that it usually doesn’t…

    Cheers!

  10. Jerry

    John, the Church has forbidden abortion since the apostolic times (hardly “recent”); the Didache, which is an early catechism, expressly mentions this, and other Church Fathers back this up.

    What you might be thinking about is how our understanding of biology and how our definitions of terms like “conception” or “quickening” evolved. Many pro-choice Catholics make a lot of hay over how St. Thomas Aquinas thought that ensoulment of the embryo only happened 40 days post-conception, but while the Church has always strongly aligned itself behind Thomas’ theology and moral and metapyhsicalphilosophy, his natural philosophy (e.g., biology) has never been considered particularly authortitative by the Magisterium.

    In short, despite the fact that our appreciation of how humans are created and how they develop have changed, abortion has always been forbidden by the Church. It is more of an issue now than it has been in the past due to the availability of cheap abortion (as opposed to home-brewed herbal potions etc.), but the teaching has always been there.

  11. EmilyE

    Pro-life Democrats are becoming increasingly rare, particularly at the national level. You’ll still find them in local and state offices (a good number of the state candidates endorsed by Ohio RTL are Democrats), but how many pro-life Democratic Senators can you name? U.S. representatives? There aren’t many at all.

    Remember Gov. Casey? The Dems didn’t want him to speak at the national convention because he was pro-life. Just one example of how ostracized pro-life Democrats are at the national level.

  12. Anonymous

    To follow your lead, I am going to question what exactly that pole asked. Because “oppose abortion” could mean a lot of different things. It could mean they don’t want to have one themselves. It could mean they want restrictions put on it. It doesn’t necessarily mean that they are staunch “pro-lifers”

  13. Funky Dung

    What irks me is that so many pro-choicers aren’t open to restrictions of any kind. Let’s say life begins in the beginning of the second trimester. Fine. Now, let’s ban abortions after 16 weeks or so, perhaps with an exception for the life of the mother. Life need not begin at conception for a fetus to be regarded as a person. Right now law effectively states that a fetus is not a person until it passes out of the vagina. That sems really arbitrary to me. I find partial-birth abortions particularly horrific because you bascially have to force a breach birth and kill the child while it’s head’s still inside. If the head was out, that’d be infanticide and illegal, but inside it’s legal. Lame.

  14. steve

    Yeah, that surprised me a bit too. Given that Acquinas (whom I find virtually infallible… most of the time) equated masturbation with murder (spilling out all those little people on the ground I guess), seems like abortion would be a much easier stretch.

    Steve

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