http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/1268 A Rare Bird, A Strange Duck, One Funky Blog Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:09:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/1268#comment-23784 Otay, Buckwheat @ Ales Rarus Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:27:10 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archives/1273#comment-23784 [...] August 18th, 2004 by Funky Dung Here’s another about celiac disease and wheat hosts. The last time I blogged about this, it was just one little girl. This is about a whole facility mass producing wheat-free hosts without permission. Again I ask, at what level of truth does the insistence on wheat stand? Was the Eucharist improperly confected at thousands of masses? Was the sacrament valid?Funky Dung [...] http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/1268#comment-464 Funky Dung Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archives/1273#comment-464 I agree that she should have received the blood. I really don't understand why she didn't. As for the "teeny tiny crumb" idea, if she were my child, it'd be a no-brainer. <b>There is no way on God's green earth I'd endanger her life like that.</b> Allergies like that are serious business and can be life threatening at the smallest concentrations.<br /><br />I've looked around and I can't find a satifying explanation of why wheat is neccessary. It seems that it's been enforced as ordinary infallibility (i.e. bishops agreeing about it for centuries). If this were a matter of faith or morals, I'd be supportive of that reasoning. It's not.<br /><br />Still, that's the rule, and disobeying it willy-nilly isn't appropriate, especially when a valid alternative is available. Does anybody have a version of this story that explains the rejection of the Precious Blood? There is no way on God's green earth I'd endanger her life like that. Allergies like that are serious business and can be life threatening at the smallest concentrations.

I've looked around and I can't find a satifying explanation of why wheat is neccessary. It seems that it's been enforced as ordinary infallibility (i.e. bishops agreeing about it for centuries). If this were a matter of faith or morals, I'd be supportive of that reasoning. It's not.

Still, that's the rule, and disobeying it willy-nilly isn't appropriate, especially when a valid alternative is available. Does anybody have a version of this story that explains the rejection of the Precious Blood?]]> http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/1268#comment-465 Donna Marie Lewis Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archives/1273#comment-465 I believe that the mother refused that option, Emily. <br />Also, it has to be wheat to be valid. If I remember correctly,the Church ruled on this several centuries ago, when missionaries in Asia asked if rice would be valid. <br />Best explanation I've come across is the chapter "Why Wheat?" in the book "Why Matter Matters" by David Lang. Also, it has to be wheat to be valid. If I remember correctly,the Church ruled on this several centuries ago, when missionaries in Asia asked if rice would be valid.
Best explanation I've come across is the chapter "Why Wheat?" in the book "Why Matter Matters" by David Lang.]]> http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/1268#comment-466 Emily Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archives/1273#comment-466 I don't have a comment about the tradition of using wheat - but I'm confused as to why she didn't receive the Sacred Blood if they know she has this disorder. The fullness of the sacrament is present under either form. http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/1268#comment-467 John Thompson Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archives/1273#comment-467 I once had a conversation with a priest (I believe it was Father Joe) that seems pertinent.<br /><br />He told me that the Church has some exceptions in its rules for the sacraments for extreme situations. The classic example being a situation like in "For Whom the Bell Tolls" where an imprisoned priest is tending to a group of people about to be executed. The priest said that, in that situation, any bread can be used for Communion. <br /><br />I realize that this is not the same situation. However, I think that if you could find the document explaining the reasoning behind that exception, you'd probably get a better understanding of the wheat question, and would also be able to consider whether the reasoning also applies in this situation.
He told me that the Church has some exceptions in its rules for the sacraments for extreme situations. The classic example being a situation like in "For Whom the Bell Tolls" where an imprisoned priest is tending to a group of people about to be executed. The priest said that, in that situation, any bread can be used for Communion.

I realize that this is not the same situation. However, I think that if you could find the document explaining the reasoning behind that exception, you'd probably get a better understanding of the wheat question, and would also be able to consider whether the reasoning also applies in this situation.]]> http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/1268#comment-468 Alexa Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archives/1273#comment-468 I think ya gotta stick to yer guns on this. She should have been offered a drop of Precious Blood instead. Or, at the very least a teeny tiny crumb of the Eucharistic Bread. Probably wouldn't have killed her. http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/1268#comment-469 EmilyE Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archives/1273#comment-469 Interestingly, there are low-gluten (nearly wheat-free, but not quite) hosts that I've been told are valid.<br /><br />And European doctors seem to be in consensus that such small amounts of gluten wouldn't hurt a child with that disorder... American doctors apparently go for the complete-abstinence-from-wheat approach.<br /><br />But I agree with Emily #1... Why couldn't she just partake of the Precious Blood?
And European doctors seem to be in consensus that such small amounts of gluten wouldn't hurt a child with that disorder… American doctors apparently go for the complete-abstinence-from-wheat approach.

But I agree with Emily #1… Why couldn't she just partake of the Precious Blood?]]> http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/archives/1268#comment-470 Jerry Nora Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/wordpress/archives/1273#comment-470 This issue popped up in Boston several years ago--again, the Blood was never mentioned, and the family became Methodist. Someone should wake up and send a little memo around the parishes.